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Gunman on Virginia Tech Campus - 32 killed, 21 wounded - Page 10
notice how the magick number 32 popped up, also what gets me is the fact that they havent been able to id this guy yet whoever he was... also he had 2 9mms he must ...
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A man killed a police officer and another person after a traffic stop Thursday, December 8, 2011 at Virginia Tech.
Spouses Of Victims Sue Provost
ATLANTA -- The spouses of two people killed at a faculty meeting at the University of Alabama in Huntsville last year have filed wrongful death lawsuits against the university provost. They contend that he violated a safety policy he helped write and should have done more to protect the faculty after Amy Bishop, a professor who is accused of - By KIM SEVERSON
Virginia Tech shootings: Two killed, suspect at large - latimes.com
A suspect remained at large Thursday afternoon on the campus of Virginia Tech afternoon killing a police officer and at least one other person, the university said.
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School shooting have always been an issue in today’s generation, many students and parents alike understand the importance for safety in schools and share the same concern and fear “will my school or son/daughters school be next”. In the states over (list how many school shootings occurred) and within the last year there has been at least (list how many) school shootings on April/16/07 two shooting on the campus of Virginia Tech located in Blacksburg Virginia occurred. US officials called it “the most deadliest mass shooting in U.S History” 33 people died including the gunman. A law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN a .22 calibre handgun and a 9 mm handgun were recovered at the scene. According to police the shooter attacked more than one classroom two people were also killed in a separate incident at a dormitory on the campus about two hours before the previous incident. Police are still trying to figure out if the two incidents are related.
can revise it and help me find some statistics on school shootings in the US im having trouble finding some..
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what should my body topic paragraph talk about now..? im kinda in for "the effec that school shooting has on students..??
Answer: Well you're right that there's way to many shootings. All I can tell you is to go into the news archives and look them up. They are there for one and all to look at.
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Violence Revisits Virginia Tech; Two Are Killed in Shooting
BLACKSBURG, Va. — Two men, including a campus police officer, were shot and killed Thursday afternoon on the campus of Virginia Tech , the scene of a 2007 massacre in which 33 people were slain, the authorities said. The police officer, Deriek W. Crouse, 39, of Christiansburg, Va., was shot at close range by a man who had walked up to him as - By J. DAVID GOODMAN
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Virginia Tech Faulted Anew On Shootings
During the worst campus shooting spree in American history, Virginia Tech officials locked down some administrative offices and warned their own families more than an hour and a half before the rest of the campus was alerted, according to revisions made in the states official report on the rampage. The revelations come more than two and a half - By IAN URBINA
What do you gun control advocates make of this?
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A deeply troubled and disgruntled foreign student runs afoul of college authorities.
He comes to the Virginia campus armed and starts shooting in one building.
But, unlike the massacre at Virginia Tech last week, the damage was contained in this incident that occurred five years ago, before the state legislature banned guns on college campuses.
(Story continues below)
Peter Odighizuwa
On Jan. 16, 2002, Peter Odighizuwa, a 43-year-old student from Nigeria, walked into the Appalachian School of Law offices of Dean Anthony Sutin, 42, a former acting assistant U.S. attorney, and professor Thomas Blackwell, 41, and opened fire with a .380 ACP semi-automatic handgun – shooting them at close range.
Also killed in the same building was student Angela Denise Dales, 33. Three others were wounded.
As soon as the gunfire erupted, two students acting independently of one another, Tracy Bridges and Mikael Gross, ran to their vehicles to retrieve firearms. Gross, an off-duty police officer in his home state of North Carolina, got his 9mm pistol and body armor. Bridges got out his .357 Magnum.
Bridges and Gross went back to the building where the shots were heard and as Odighizuwa exited, they approached from different angles. Bridges yelled for him to drop his weapon and the shooter was subdued by several unarmed students.
Gross went back to his car and got handcuffs to detain the shooter until police arrived.
Most news reports of the incident failed to mention the presence of two armed students and their role in subduing the shooter, saying only that he was tackled by bystanders.
Odighizuwa was tried for the murders and sentenced to multiple life terms in prison.
Virginia Tech, like many of the nations schools and college campuses, is a so-called "gun-free zone," which Second Amendment supporters say invites gun violence – especially from disturbed individuals seeking to kill as many victims as possible.
Foreign-born student Cho Seung-Hui murdered 32 and wounded another 15 before turning his gun on himself.
A year earlier, the Virginia legislature banned all guns on campus in the interest of safety.
Answer: Interesting story. A lot of Pro-Gun John Wayne wanna-be's love these stories. They think it makes an argument for looser gun controls. Many of them will even say "gun control doesn't work", this merely shows that they live entirely engrossed in their own small minded, ill-educated little community. All over the world are countries who DO have Gun Control, and have never had a massacre like those in the US schools.
A little history for you........
October 2006: A 32-year-old gunman shoots dead at least five girls at an Amish school in Pennsylvania, before killing himself
September 2006: Gunman in Colorado shoots and fatally wounds a teenage schoolgirl, then kills himself; two days later a teenager kills the headteacher of a school in Cazenovia, Wisconsin
November 2005: Student in Tennessee shoots dead an assistant principal and wounds two other administrators
March 2005: Minnesota schoolboy kills nine, then shoots himself
May 2004: Four people injured in shooting at a school in Maryland
April 2003: Teenager shoots dead head-teacher at a Pennsylvania school, then kills himself
March 2001: Pupil opens fire at a school in California, killing two students
February 2000: Six-year-old girl shot dead by classmate in Michigan
November 1999: Thirteen-year-old girl shot dead by a classmate in New Mexico
May 1999: Student injures six pupils in shoot-out in Georgia
April 1999: Two teenagers shoot dead 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine School in Colorado
June 1998: Two adults hurt in shooting by teenage student at high school in Virginia
May 1998: Fifteen-year-old boy shoots himself in the head after taking a girl hostage
May 1998: Fifteen-year-old shoots dead two students in school cafeteria in Oregon
April 1998: Fourteen-year-old shoots dead a teacher and wounds two students in Pennsylvania
March 1998: Two boys, 11 and 13, kill four girls and a teacher in Arkansas
December 1997: Fourteen-year-old boy kills three students in Kentucky
October 1997: Sixteen-year-old boy stabs mother, then shoots dead two students at school in Mississippi, injuring several others
As an example, take the UK, or Ireland and search for statistics on the Per Capita level of Gun crime compared to the US. It shows to anyone not close minded and desperate to support their own lust for weapons of death, that gun control seems to work damn well in any country that takes it seriously.
After Irelands Civil war and war of independence every household in the country had guns, the first government of the new state had the guts and brains to outlaw them entirely, it took several years and a few protests, but now at 30, having lived in many of the cities in Ireland at one time or another, I have never even seen a gun in my entire life. Shootings are rare and far between and nearly always between two criminals, no innocents involved. Why? Because it's nearly impossible to get a gun here. Here in a fight outside a pub, tempers flare a few punches are thrown, thats it, in the states tempers flare.. and chances are at least one of the guys involved has a loaded gun in his car...
Category: Law & Ethics
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do you think gun control is the answer ?
Last Monday, tragedy struck the campus of Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia. A lone gunman went on two separate shooting rampages at the university. After killing two students in a dormitory, he later entered an academic building and chained shut the front doors.
Then he proceeded to walk through the second floor, and with two pistols shot and killed another 3O students and instructors. Before he could be stopped by the police, he shot himself.
When the day ended, 33 were dead and more than a dozen injured. This is now the deadliest shooting spree in American history.
With each eruption of unbelievable, unforgivable violence like this, Americans invariably ask, “How did this happen?” And before the dust has settled, the finger-pointing begins. But the more important question – and the one we don’t want to ask because we don’t want to answer it – is “Why did this happen?”
America has suffered a monumental tragedy. My heart and prayers go out to all Virginia Tech students, parents, and families who lost loved ones and friends in this senseless act of a twisted mind.
But in the aftermath of America’s worst school massacre, I know there are those who will use it to promote causes that don’t really address the problem. For instance, the anti-gun crowd is already springing out of the woodwork.
But to say that this tragedy was caused by the availability of guns, simplistically fails to recognize the real source of the problem. There has never been a gun made that killed anyone. It’s the person wielding the weapon who kills. If that’s not true, we had better forbid the use of the automobile.
Far more people are killed in auto accidents than are killed with guns. And yet, therein the problem is illustrated. Automobiles don’t kill people. It’s the person who drives the automobile that kills people.
One issue that is almost always overlooked in the discussion of gun violence is the complete removal of Biblical morals and ethics from America’s public life, especially our schools.
This has left young minds vulnerable to such things as the endless flood of computer games that facilitate, inspire, and train them to kill great numbers of people with efficiency, but without remorse. It’s done with computer simulation.
Some say there’s no correlation between these games and the act of murder. However, there have been connections established with some of those who have killed in the most calloused and ruthless manner.
If a mind is continually imprinted with the acting out of bloody, ruthless killings, the lines between make-believe and reality become blurred. And though moral judgment is blurred, physical skill is sharpened. Just think for a moment.
Mohammad Atta and the other terrorists on 9/11 had never actually flown a Boeing 767. They were taught the basics of flying in smaller aircraft, but they learned how to operate the instruments and controls of a 767 through computer simulators.
In the same way, many of the computer games played for hours on end by some young people teach the tactics and reflexive skills needed for killing large numbers of people.
These games are much worse than the violent movies and TV series that feature violence. At least they have a script that attaches some semblance of rationale for why the killings are taking place. But the violent computer games bring no ethics or morals into the equation. You win by blowing apart in bloody gun battles as many people as possible. Normal human sensitivities and compassion are dulled over time by this simulation.
This is especially true in the case of disturbed and alienated young minds that have not been taught any concept of parental discipline, love and Biblical morality.
It’s the amoral mind of people that causes death via guns, knives, clubs – or whatever else can be used in a lethal way. It’s not the inanimate weapon.
So removing guns from law-abiding citizens is not the answer. It only leaves them defenseless before the criminals that in any case will manage to obtain guns. History repeatedly proves this point.
Listen to this statement and ask yourself who made it: “This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. The street will be safer, the police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” That was Adolf Hitler, on April 15th, 1935.
History offers other examples of what can happen when citizens are stripped of the means to defend themselves.
The Turkish Ottoman Empire established gun control in 1911. It then proceeded to exterminate one and a half million Armenians from 1914—1917.
The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. Subsequently, from 1928—1953, 60-million dissidents were imprisoned and then exterminated.
China enacted gun control laws in 1935. After the communist takeover, from 1948—1952, 20 million Chinese, unable to defend themselves, were murdered.
Nazi Germany fully established gun control in 1938. That helped the government to round up 13 million defenseless Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill and impaired human beings. Many were imprisoned in concentration camps, then destroyed.
Guatemala passed gun control laws in 1964. Then, from 1964 to 1981, 100-thousand defenseless Mayan Indians were exterminated.
Uganda established gun control measures in 1970. Predictably, from 1971 to 1979, 300-thousand defenseless Christians met a similar fate.
Cambodia established gun control measures in 1956. Subsequently, from 1957 to 1977 one-million Cambodians met their deaths.
Our Founding Fathers had good reason to include in the Constitution “the right for each citizen to bear arms.” They came to this country with vivid memories of what an all-powerful government could do to its defenseless citizens.
In our country, the following evidence clearly demonstrates the impact upon criminals that armed citizens have. Vermont has a genuine right-to-carry law. That means no permit is required. Yet Vermont boasts the lowest crime rate in the nation. Nationwide in the USA, concealed-carry laws have resulted in a drop in crime rates.
A comprehensive national study in 1996 determined that violent crime fell after states made it legal to carry concealed firearms. The results of the study showed that states, which passed concealed-carry laws, reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5%, and aggravated assaults by 7% and robbery by 3%. By extrapolation, if the other States, which do not have concealed-carry laws, had adopted such laws in 1992, then approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults and 12,000 robberies would have been avoided yearly.
So let’s deal with the real problem – by seeking to reform the minds of our citizens with Biblical morality and ethics. Paul, writing in 2 Timothy 3:1-5, said, “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!”
All of the above characteristics are those of a society that has rejected God and His morality and ethics. It is an accurate description of America’s predominant morality today. And as a result, “perilous times” have come.
Answer: gun control is wrong,it will not stop people from snapping and killing.rejecting "gods" does not make people kill on a mass level.the problem has nothing to do with guns,or any "god".
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What do you think of this shooting on Virginia Tech today ?
BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, shot up a classroom across campus Monday, killing 32 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history. The gunman committed suicide, bringing the death toll to 33.
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Students complained that there were no public-address announcements or other warnings on campus after the first burst of gunfire. They said the first word they received from the university was an e-mail more than two hours into the rampage — around the time the gunman struck again.
Virginia Tech President Charles Steger said authorities believed that the shooting at the dorm was a domestic dispute and mistakenly thought the gunman had fled the campus.
"We had no reason to suspect any other incident was going to occur," he said.
He defended the universitys handling of the tragedy, saying: "We can only make decisions based on the information you had on the time. You dont have hours to reflect on it."
Investigators offered no motive for the attack. The gunmans name was not immediately released, and it was not known if he was a student.
The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus. Witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive.
The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing at least two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about a half-mile away, authorities said.
Two people were killed in a dormitory room, and 31 others were killed in the engineering building, including the gunman, police said.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," Steger said. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."
Steger said the university decided to rely on e-mail and other electronic means of notifying members of the university, but with 11,000 people driving onto campus first thing in the morning, it was difficult to get the word out. He said that before the e-mail went out, the university began telephoning resident advisers in the dorms to notify them and sent people to knock on doors to spread the word.
Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum would not say how many weapons the gunman carried. But a law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was incomplete, said that the gunman had two pistols and multiple clips of ammunition.
Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.
Some students bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time.
"What happened today this was ridiculous," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "While they send out that e-mail, 20 more people got killed."
Students and Laura Wedin, a student programs manager at Virginia Tech, said the first notification they got of the shootings came in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m., more than two hours after the first shooting.
The e-mail had few details. It said: "A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating." The message warned students to be cautious and contact police about anything suspicious.
Student Maurice Hiller said he went to a 9 a.m. class two buildings away from the engineering building, and no warnings were coming over the outdoor public address system on campus at the time.
Everett Good, junior, said of the lack of warning: "Im trying to figure that out. Someones head is definitely going to roll over that."
"We were kept in the dark a lot about exactly what was going on," said Andrew Capers Thompson, a 22-year-old graduate student from Walhalla, S.C.
At least 26 people were being treated at three area hospitals for gunshot wounds and other injuries, authorities said. Their exact conditions were not disclosed, but at least one was sent to a trauma center and six were in surgery, authorities said.
Up until Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard plowed his pickup truck into a Lubys Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself.
The massacre Monday took place almost eight years to the day after the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo. On April 20, 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives.
Previously, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history was a rampage that took place in 1966 at the University of Texas at Austin, where Charles Whitman climbed the clock tower and opened fire with a rifle from the 28th-floor observation deck. He killed 16 people before he was shot to death by police.
Founded in 1872, Virginia Tech is nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwestern Virginia, about 160 miles west of Richmond. With more than 25,000 full-time students, it has the states largest full-time student population. The school is best known for its engineering school and its powerhouse Hokies football team.
The rampage took place on a brisk spring day, with snow flurries swirling around the campus. The campus is centered around the Drill Field, a grassy field where military cadets — who now represent a fraction of the student body — once practiced. The dorm and the classroom building are on opposites sides of the Drill Field.
A gasp could be heard at a campus news conference early in the day when the police chief announced that at least 20 people had been killed. Previously, only one person was thought to have been killed.
A White House spokesman said President Bush was horrified by the rampage and offered his prayers to the victims and the people of Virginia.
"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said
After the shootings, all entrances to the campus were closed, and classes were canceled through Tuesday. The university set up a meeting place for families to reunite with their children. It also made counselors available and planned an assembly for Tuesday at the basketball arena.
After the shooting began, students were told to stay inside away from the windows.
Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanodes resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put.
Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks by authorities but said they have not determined a link to the shootings.
It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting.
Last August, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriffs deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus. The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.
Answer: Above and beyond the fact that the VT authorities SAW this coming, they HELPED it by creating a weapon's free, no self-defense zone by denying the law-abiding faculty and students their right to armed self defense on campus. If ONE of the faculty or students had been armed, as is their right under U.S. and state law, not nearly as many may not have died!
I hope that the survivors and families of any of the victims that had VA state Concealed Weapons Permits SUE the VT administration and VA State for wrongful death of the victims
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Why is the Fort Hood army base shootings being treated differently to other US shootings?
I cant help but notice that the recent shootings at Fort Hood are receiving more importance and media focus than the other outbursts of shootings that have occurred across the US in the last decade or so.
Heres a brief list of just those that occurred in schools:
" - October 2007: A teenage gunman reportedly shoots and wounds five people at a high school in Cleveland, Ohio, before killing himself.
April 2007: At least 32 people are killed in two shooting incidents in the campus of Virginia Tech university in Virginia.
- October 2006: A 32-year-old gunman shoots dead at least five girls at an Amish school in Pennsylvania, before killing himself
- September 2006: Gunman in Colorado shoots and fatally wounds a teenage schoolgirl, then kills himself; two days later a teenager kills the headteacher of a school in Cazenovia, Wisconsin
- November 2005: Student in Tennessee shoots dead an assistant principal and wounds two other administrators
- March 2005: Minnesota schoolboy kills nine, then shoots himself
- May 2004: Four people injured in shooting at a school in Maryland
- April 2003: Teenager shoots dead head-teacher at a Pennsylvania school, then kills himself
- March 2001: Pupil opens fire at a school in California, killing two students
- February 2000: Six-year-old girl shot dead by classmate in Michigan
- November 1999: Thirteen-year-old girl shot dead by a classmate in New Mexico
- May 1999: Student injures six pupils in shoot-out in Georgia
- April 1999: Two teenagers shoot dead 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine School in Colorado
- June 1998: Two adults hurt in shooting by teenage student at high school in Virginia
- May 1998: Fifteen-year-old boy shoots himself in the head after taking a girl hostage
- May 1998: Fifteen-year-old shoots dead two students in school cafeteria in Oregon
- April 1998: Fourteen-year-old shoots dead a teacher and wounds two students in Pennsylvania
- March 1998: Two boys, 11 and 13, kill four girls and a teacher in Arkansas
- December 1997: Fourteen-year-old boy kills three students in Kentucky
- October 1997: Sixteen-year-old boy stabs mother, then shoots dead two students at school in Mississippi, injuring several others."
In these cases, the victims were not soldiers but purely civilians and often kids; boys and girls, and/or teachers etc. If anyone didnt deserve to be killed, it was these victims.
There were no flags being flown on buildings or repeated tributes and interventions by the President into the matter or on the level as with case...it just appears that this spree is being treated with more attention, suspiciously disproportionate attention it must be said...
All I am saying is that isnt the life of these kids and teachers of the same value as soldiers...if anything they were more undeserving of getting killed whereas soldiers kind of train for combat to kill or be killed (but that doesnt mean of course that it automatically justifies their killing).
Would like to hear your thoughts...
@ lola. The scale is not relatively greater than previous shootings. The Virginia Tech incident KILLED 32 people, students and staff etc. (in this case, the 30 army staff were INJURED). The Cleveland school massacre likewise injured 30 and killed 5 children.
And please dont imply that this is about a lack of respect for soldiers...
Answer: Politics
Category: Current Events
Is 2days response to shootings @Va Tech an example of response efforts of multi-million$ Homeland Security ?
Gunman kills 30 on Virginia Tech campus
By SUE LINDSEY, Associated Press Writer
BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, in a classroom across campus Monday, killing at least 30 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history, government officials said. The gunman was killed, bringing the death toll to 31.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Va. Tech Pres. Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."What happened today this was ridiculous..... "And I dont know what happened or what was going through this guys mind," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "But Im pretty outraged and Im pretty outraged that someone died in a shooting in a dorm at 7 oclock in the morning and the first e-mail about it — no mention of locking down campus, no mention of canceling classes — they just mention that the matter is under investigation."
And no, apparently it was not a “terrorist attack”- and no one can really get “ready for a terrorist act,” but still, people do crazy things all of the time, and in this case,. many were killed. In other words, no one in authority KNEW what else was to come. And Homeland Security has been preparing for bad things for several years now…so perhaps we need to think about other forms of terror besides those that rain down upon our buildings.
Comments?
I am referring to the response time and subsequent activities of the Va. police re this incident. I am inferring that the response efforts may well be indicative of the response efforts of Homeland Security Officers. I am also inferring that on two occasions in the last two years in New York City,law enforcement acted as though they had no idea what they were doing - or why. In PLANNED dry runs of terror acts, everyone does what they are told to do. They have directions to follow. In UNPLANNED events, I would offer that there appears to be severe problems with response effforts, both with local law enforcement personnel as well as with Homeland Security details.
Answer: Yeah, it is. There's no way that it should take that long to stop the shootings, and no way that security should permit the gunman access to so many victims over such a broad area... at two different times, no less.
America is not in danger from international entities, we are in danger from our inability to keep our own country safe. How about spending some of that homeland security money on high-population areas like universities instead of crap like farms in Nebraska?
Category: Politics
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BLACKSBURG, Va., Dec 8 (Reuters) - A gunman ambushed and killed a campus police officer and was later reported to have been found dead on Thursday at Virginia Tech University, the site of one of the worst shooting rampages in U.S. history.
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School shooting have always been an issue in today’s generation, many students and parents alike understand the importance for safety in schools and share the same concern and fear “will my school or son/daughters school be next”. In the states over (list how many school shootings occurred) and within the last year there has been at least (list how many) school shootings on April/16/07 two shooting on the campus of Virginia Tech located in Blacksburg Virginia occurred. US officials called it “the most deadliest mass shooting in U.S History” 33 people died including the gunman. A law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN a .22 calibre handgun and a 9 mm handgun were recovered at the scene. According to police the shooter attacked more than one classroom two people were also killed in a separate incident at a dormitory on the campus about two hours before the previous incident. Police are still trying to figure out if the two incidents are related.
can revise it and help me find some statistics on school shootings in the US im having trouble finding some..
what should my body topic paragraph talk about now..? im kinda in for "the effec that school shooting has on students..??
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Gunman kills 30 on Virginia Tech campus By SUE LINDSEY, Associated Press Writer
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BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, in a classroom across campus Monday, killing at least 30 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history, government officials told The Associated Press. The gunman was killed, bringing the death toll to 31.
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"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."
It was not immediately clear whether the gunman was shot by police or took his own life. His name was not released, and investigators offered no motive for the attack. It was not known if the gunman was a student.
The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus, with students complaining that the university did not warn them about the first burst of gunfire until more than two hours later.
Witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive.
The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing at least two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about a half-mile away, authorities said.
Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.
Some students bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time, two hours after the bloodshed began.
"What happened today this was ridiculous. And I dont know what happened or what was going through this guys mind," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "But Im pretty outraged and Ill say on the record Im pretty outraged that someone died in a shooting in a dorm at 7 oclock in the morning and the first e-mail about it — no mention of locking down campus, no mention of canceling classes — they just mention that theyre investigating a shooting two hours later at 9:22."
He added: "Thats pretty ridiculous and meanwhile, while theyre sending out that e-mail, 22 more people got killed."
FBI spokesman Richard Kolko in Washington said there was no evidence to suggest it was a terrorist attack, "but all avenues will be explored."
Up until Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard drove his pickup into a Lubys Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself.
The massacre Monday took place almost eight years to the day after the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo. On April 20, 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives.
Previously, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history was a rampage that took place in 1966 at the University of Texas at Austin, where Charles Whitman climbed the clock tower and opened fire with a rifle from the 28th-floor observation deck. He killed 16 people before he was shot to death by police.
Founded in 1872, Virginia Tech is nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwestern Virginia, about 160 miles west of Richmond. With more than 25,000 full-time students, it has the states largest full-time student population. The school is best known for its engineering school and its powerhouse Hokies football team.
The rampage took place on a brisk spring day, with snow flurries swirling around the campus. The campus is centered around the Drill Field, a grassy field where military cadets — who now represent a fraction of the student body — once practiced. The dorm and the classroom building are on opposites sides of the Drill Field.
A gasp could be heard at a campus news conference when Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum said at least 20 people had been killed. Previously, only one person was thought to have been killed.
Investigators from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began marking and recovering the large number of shell casings and will trace the weapon used, authorities said.
A White House spokesman said President Bush was horrified by the rampage and offered his prayers to the victims and the people of Virginia.
"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said
After the shootings, all entrances to the campus were closed, and classes were canceled through Tuesday. The university set up a meeting place for families to reunite with their children. It also made counselors available and planned an assembly for Tuesday at the basketball arena.
After the shooting began, students were told to stay inside away from the windows.
Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanodes resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put.
"They had us under lockdown," Kanode said. "They temporarily lifted the lockdown, the gunman shot again."
"Were all locked in our dorms surfing the Internet trying to figure out whats going on," Kanode said.
Maurice Hiller, 21, a mechanical engineering student from Richmond, saw police and SWAT team members with guns drawn going toward Norris Hall. "This is something just totally beyond anybodys expectations," he said.
Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks by authorities but said they have not determined a link to the shootings.
It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting.
Last August, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriffs deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus. The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.
Answer: Thank you for the information, I hadn't heard about it until about 5 minutes ago. I didn't know the details, just that there was a shooting and a lot of people had died. This is so horrible, I feel for the students and the families of the dead. I pray God will comfort them.
Category: Polls & Surveys
Two Dead in Shooting on Virginia Tech Campus - NYTimes.com
Two people, including a police officer, were dead after a shooting on Thursday afternoon on the campus of Virginia Tech, the scene of a 2007 massacre in which 33 people were killed, university officials said.
Virginia Tech | Invent the Future
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Did you hear the horrible news about the 21 Students at Virginia Tech that were shot to death?
Gunman kills 21 on Virginia Tech campus
A gunman opened fire in a dorm and classroom at Virginia Tech on Monday, killing 21 people in the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history. The gunman was killed, but it was unclear if he was shot by police or took his own life.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."
The university reported shootings at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a co-ed residence hall that houses 895 people, and continuing about two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building.
Some but not all the dead were students. One student was killed in a dorm and the others were killed in the classroom, Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum.
The name of the gunman was not released. It was not known if he was a student.
Up until Monday, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history took place in 1966 at the University of Texas, where Charles Whitman climbed to the 28th-floor observation deck of a clock tower and opened fire. He killed 16 people before he was gunned down by police. In the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo., in 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives.
After Mondays shootings, all entrances to the campus were closed. The campus was to reopen Tuesday but classes were canceled.
The university set up a meeting place for families to reunite with their children at the Inn at Virginia Tech. It also made counselors available and planned a convocation for Tuesday at the Cassell Coliseum basketball arena.
After the shootings, students were told to stay inside away from the windows.
"Theres just a lot of commotion. Its hard to tell exactly whats going on," said Jason Anthony Smith, 19, who lives in the dorm where shooting took place.
Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the 4th floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanodes resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put.
"They had us under lockdown," Kanode said. "They temporarily lifted the lockdown, the gunman shot again."
"Were all locked in our dorms surfing the Internet trying to figure out whats going on," Kanode said.
Madison Van Duyne, a student who was interviewed by telephone on CNN, said, "We are all in lockdown. Most of the students are sitting on the floors away from the windows just trying to be as safe as possible."
Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks by authorities but said they have not determined a link to the shootings.
It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting.
In August 2006, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriffs deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus.
The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.
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Answer: I think it was a tragedy first and foremost and my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families.
They were just sitting ducks with no way to defend themselves much like the victims of Colin Ferguson. Concealed-carry advocates warned us all long ago to expect tragedies like this as long as we have gun control.
When only criminals have guns the rest of us can only ponder tactics like "notifications."
In a state where concealed-carry is allowed or promoted, the loss of life could have been much less. He may have shot one or two, but a concealed-carrier would have dispatched him right quick.
Sadly there is no way to prevent a killer with a gun. In tribal Africa where there are no manufactured guns, tribesman make them from pipes and rubber-bands so clearly gun control is not the answer. You can make a gun out of wood in an hour! He could have stabbed just as many with a knife.
Since you will never stop the OFFENSE, we must allow ourselves a DEFENSE. We are not all of one culture anymore, so violence will only increase.
The only way to prevent these killing rampages is concealed-carry. Would you rather protect yourself or wait for the folly "notification?”
Category: Media & Journalism
A Life Haunted by the Ghosts of a Massacre
BLACKSBURG, Va. -- In the parlance of trauma, Jerzy Nowak considers himself a secondary victim. His wife, Jocelyne Couture-Nowak, a French teacher, was one of the 32 people killed at Virginia Tech here on April 16, 2007, by a crazed gunman who then killed himself in the worst campus shooting in American history. The effects of that massacre - By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
A Coaching Philosophy Informed by Lifes Trials and Brushes With Mortality
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. -- The mementos in Mike Londons office provide a rough sketch of his career: photographs, souvenir footballs, the 2008 N.C.A.A. championship ring he won as the coach at Richmond, the image of the rotunda on the University of Virginia campus. But no material object can capture the tortuous path London traveled to become the new - By MARK VIERA
Two Virginia Tech Students Found Dead Near Campus | HULIQ
It appears tragedy has, once again, struck at Virginia Tech University as two students were found shot dead near campus on Thursday. The Two Virginia Tech students ...
Should we accept the Virginia Tech presidents excuse for failing to warn students of the killer on campus?
I asked earlier if he should be arrested for this. In his own words he stated that he thought the killer had fled the campus. That is ridiculous. Did aliens tell him this? How could he know? There was a man loose on campus with loaded weapons killing people! He said the campus is too big and too many students to notify everyone. That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard! Instead of text messaging they should have had road blocks up preventing students from getting on campus and sirens and loudspeakers announcing everyone to get the hell off campus. That place should have been swarming with police after the first two killings. You can tell the I.Q. of America is slipping when the media is turning this terrorist into a victim! Young teenagers are openly scared of even thinking of going to a college or university with good reason! Im glad Im older. I feel sorry for the younger generation of this country and what they will have to face.
Some people who answered so far have asked why blame him for the killers actions and that hindsight is 20-20. My argument is he waited way too long to notify the students (more than two hours!). That is criminal! The campus police chief should share the blame as well.
Answer: Hindsight is 20-20.
The president most likely was acting on the advice of his campus police, and what you suggest would be very hard to put together within the two hours or so V-T had to respond to the first murder.
In retrospect there are probably a lot of things that could have been done differently, but arresting the president of V-T is a ridiculous notion.
I would think a lockdown might have been a good idea, had anyone known what this deranged individual was about to do. But they didn't.
Your comments have some merit, but it is not the media, the police or the president of the university who is to blame for these killings. It is the man who planned and executed this horrible crime, and he is the only one who deserves blame or dishonor from the disaster.
Category: Law & Ethics
2 Dead of Gunshots as Violence Revisits Virginia Tech
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NATIONAL BRIEFING | SOUTH; Virginia: University Is Fined for Delay
The Department of Education fined Virginia Tech $55,000 on Tuesday for waiting too long to notify students after the 2007 campus shooting that left 33 people dead. More than two hours passed after the shooting began before the university sent a notification to the entire campus, the department said. The fine was the maximum amount allowed for - By ROBBIE BROWN
Gunman Fatally Shoots Cop, Reportedly Kills Self On Virginia Tech ...
(CBS Washington/AP) – Law enforcement officials tell the Associated Press that the gunman who fatally shot a police officer on the Virginia Tech campus is dead. Virginia authorities won't confirm that the second individual was the gunman but they “feel .... Pingback: Virgina Tech Recent Shooting Update: Two People Dead In Virginia Tech Shooting « Anne's POWER SURGE Blog. Brad. REmember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. December 8 ...
Virginia Tech Reports Two Killed in Campus Shooting - Businessweek
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Two dead in Virginia Tech campus shooting | Scott McCabe | Capital ...
Virginia Tech officials say a police officer and another person were fatally shot during a traffic stop on campus Thursday afternoon, and authorities are searching for a gunman. The officer pulled over a vehicle in the Coliseum ...
Two Dead in Virginia Tech Campus Shooting - Bloomberg
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2 dead, including police officer, after Virginia Tech shooting incident
A Virginia Tech police officer was among two people killed Thursday on the schools campus, prompting a sweeping search and school-wide lockdown that lasted over four hours. Around 4:30 p.m., the school in Blacksburg, Virginia, announced on its ...
how does this sound?
School shooting have always been an issue in today’s generation, many students and parents alike understand the importance for safety in schools and share the same concern and fear “will my school or son/daughters school be next”. In the states over (list how many school shootings occurred) and within the last year there has been at least (list how many) school shootings on April/16/07 two shooting on the campus of Virginia Tech located in Blacksburg Virginia occurred. US officials called it “the most deadliest mass shooting in U.S History” 33 people died including the gunman. A law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN a .22 calibre handgun and a 9 mm handgun were recovered at the scene. According to police the shooter attacked more than one classroom two people were also killed in a separate incident at a dormitory on the campus about two hours before the previous incident. Police are still trying to figure out if the two incidents are related.
can revise it and help me find some statistics on school shootings in the US im having trouble finding some..
what should my body topic paragraph talk about now..? im kinda in for "the effec that school shooting has on students..??
I really need help.. *tears* someone pls read it over..
Hot COCO i take what u said as a compliment because i actually did write it.. I only took some of the information off an article i found on a shooting in a local virgina school.. THANKS :) but next time tell me something that i dont know already..
Answer: Good essay I would check for run ons. I found some and I corrected it.
School shootings have always been an issue in today’s generation; many students and parents alike understand the importance for safety in schools; they share the same concern and fear. Parents say," will my child's school be next.In the states( (list how many school shootings occurred) and within the last year there has been at least (list how many) school shootings on April/16/07 two shootings on the campus of Virginia Tech located in Blacksburg ,Virginia occurred. US officials called it “the most deadliest mass shooting in U.S History”, 33 people died including the gunman. A law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN a .22 calibre handgun and a 9 mm handgun were recovered at the scene. According to police, the shooter attacked more than one classroom. Two people were also killed in a separate incident at a dormitory on the campus about two hours before the previous incident. Police are still trying to figure out if the two incidents are related.
Category: Other - Society & Culture
TWO KILLED ON VIRGINIA TECH CAMPUS Including A Police Officer | Atl ...
Since 1:00pm their has been reports of a campus shooting at Virginia Tech today involving a police officer that was shot dead. Shortly after 12 p.m. today, a Virginia Tech Police officer stopped a vehicle on campus during a ...
Two Dead in Shooting on Virginia Tech Campus - NYTimes.com
11 hours ago ... Two people, including a police officer, were dead after a shooting on Thursday afternoon on the campus of Virginia Tech, the scene of a 2007 ...
Two dead at Virginia Tech campus in murder/suicide - NY Daily News
11 hours ago ... Terrified Virginia Tech students survived another grim campus lockdown Thursday after a gunman calmly executed a university police officer ...
Shooting at Virginia Tech reopens wounds from 2007
"Tragedy has again struck Virginia Tech," school President Charles Steger said. "Our hearts are broken again." Two people ... that gripped this campus in the southwestern Virginia mountains in 2007 when a student gunman killed 33 people ...
can you revise my introduction for my Report...???
School shooting have always been an issue in today’s generation, many students and parents alike understand the importance for safety in schools and share the same concern and fear “will my school or son/daughters school be next”. In the states over (list how many school shootings occurred) and within the last year there has been at least (list how many) school shootings on April/16/07 two shooting on the campus of Virginia Tech located in Blacksburg Virginia occurred. US officials called it “the most deadliest mass shooting in U.S History” 33 people died including the gunman. A law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN a .22 calibre handgun and a 9 mm handgun were recovered at the scene. According to police the shooter attacked more than one classroom two people were also killed in a separate incident at a dormitory on the campus about two hours before the previous incident. Police are still trying to figure out if the two incidents are related.
im writting a report on school shootings, and im not sure what the statistics is for how many school shootings occured in the last year and how many school shootings occured this year so if you have any additional information based on that, that would be great!
Answer: I just edited for basic grammar, not structure or content. [My notes are in brackets.]
"School shootings have always been an issue for today’s generation. Many students and parents alike understand the importance of safety in schools, and share the same fear that their or their children's school will next next. In the states [if you mean United States, States needs to be capitalized] over (list how many school shootings occurred) and within the last year there have been at least (list how many) school shootings. On April 16, 2007, two shootings occurred on the campus of Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia. U.S. officials called it “the most deadliest mass shooting in U.S History.” [check this quote - I don't think anyone would officially say "most deadliest"] 33 people died, including the gunman. A law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN a .22 caliber handgun and a 9 mm handgun were recovered at the scene. According to police, the shooter attacked more than one classroom. Two people were also killed in a separate incident at a dormitory on the campus about two hours before the previous incident. Police are still trying to figure out if the two incidents are related.
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I think your information is old; we now know that the same gunman was responsible for both incidents.
Also, this should help you:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html
Category: Homework Help
Virginia Student Charged in School Shooting
A community college student who opened fire on his math professor in a crowded classroom Tuesday was arraigned Wednesday on charges of attempted murder and discharging a firearm in a school zone. No one was injured in the shooting, which took place at one of the campuses of the states largest university system, but it rattled a region where - By IAN URBINA
Virginia Tech identifies police officer murdered in campus shooting
... Tech confirms two people killed. One of those is an officer. ----- UPDATED 1:50 p.m.: This is a statement from Virginia Tech. "Shortly after 12 p.m. today, a Virginia Tech Police officer stopped a vehicle on campus during a routine ...
Campus seeks answers after Virginia Tech officer killed
That person, found in a Tech parking ... after two people were shot to death. Officials have determined there is no longer an active threat. See a larger version of the map: Click here for a map of the incidents on Virginia Techs campus Thursday.
Fired Worker at University Kills a Supervisor, Police Say
An Ohio State University custodian who had been told he was being fired killed a co-worker and wounded another before killing himself early Tuesday morning at a university maintenance building, officials said. No students were involved in the 3:30 a.m. shooting, and classes were held as scheduled on Tuesday. The gunman was identified as Nathaniel - By IAN URBINA
Virginia Tech massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Virginia Tech massacre was a school shooting that took place on April 16, 2007, on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg ...
Could the Virginia Tech massacre have been stopped that very day?
The killer killed two people in the dorms, then spent two hours writting a letter, and then killed the other 30. My question is, were the cops and security guards sitting on their butts for those two hours?? I think they had a solid hour and forty-five minutes after they found the first two bodies.
I mean, shouldnt they have had policemen swarming the campus looking for this guy? Shouldnt they have had time to cancel classes?
Heres another idea.
Bad people usually have guns.
Resolution for the good people====SHOOT BACK
Answer: A few fallacies here.
Yes, there was a two hour wait in between shootings, however the cops were not sitting around. They arrested and were processing a suspect, they thought they had the guy. They were wrong, yes and I'm sure that for the rest of their days they'll have to live with that, but they were acting on the best info they had. They did "swarm campus" and caught a suspect, with a gun, who matched the killer's description.
The gun issue is debatable at best, ridiculous to consider at worse. In wake of these tragedies it's hard not to think of those types of issues, but please, for the love of everything holy control yourself. This is not the issue that should be seized for political purposes. That happened with Collumbine, and look what happened there. You keep stumping on this, you'll get a fat documentary maker making a faux-thought provoking film on your ass. Do you really want to encourage that type of behavior?
Category: History
Dont you think Virginia Tech shooter was brilliant?
1. He set up bombs a week before the attack to measure the response time.
2. He diverted attention today by killing two people at the other side of campus, and while everybody was focused on those two dead people, he prepared his master plan.
3. He obtained keys to the Norris Hall, shut the doors down and proceeded to kill people in the two most isolated and hard to escape rooms: 203 and 205.
All was planned carefully. The shooter remained calm, one shot = one mark. He must have had a very high IQ.
Answer: He was Insane.....
Webster's Dictionary describes insane as :in·san·i·ty
Pronunciation: in-'sa-n&-tE
1 : a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia)
2 : such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil responsibility
Category: Current Events
Virginia State Crime Commission backs campus-local police ...
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U.S. News - 2 shot dead on Virginia Tech campus
In the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, 33 people, including the mentally ill gunman, were killed on the Virginia Tech campus on April 16, 2007. The massacre in a classroom building began at 9:40 a.m. when ...
Violence Revisits Virginia Tech; Two Are Killed in Shooting
Two people, including a police officer, were shot and killed Thursday afternoon on the campus of Virginia Tech, the scene of a 2007 massacre in which 33 people were slain, the authorities said. The campus police officer, whose name was not ...
STATE OF THE UNIONS; The Poetry of Parenthood
THE poet Erika Meitner was a waddling nine months pregnant in March 2007, negotiating the particulars of a job as a poetry professor at Virginia Tech, and watching an episode of 24 at home in Washington, when her water broke. Landing a job teaching poetry is to poets what winning the lottery is to everybody else. With her baby dropping by the - By JANE GORDON
2 killed in Va. Tech shootings - The Washington Post
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Public Safety Announcements Too Technical For The Tech. School?
No Alarm system?
How about a bullhorn?
How about good, old fashioned, screaming your lungs out?
Cop cars have PA systems!?!?!?!
No! Instead they rely on e-mails some two hours after the first shooting?
YAHOO NEWS: "Virginia Tech President Charles Steger said authorities believed that the shooting at the dorm was a domestic dispute and mistakenly thought the gunman had fled the campus.
"We had no reason to suspect any other incident was going to occur," he said."
COMMENT: Why on earth would ANYONE ASSUME that the GUNMAN HAD FLED THE CAMPUS?
No! If you are going to ASSUME ANYTHING then you assume that the gunman is HIDING somewhere on campus and that everyone else is still in danger.
I hate to be someone who starts the blame game, but this one seems rather obvious. Those students who were killed with the second wave of attack... Their blood is on the administrations hands as much as the killers.
Sorry for the duplicate question. I was asking again, cause i thought my last question was removed.
Brian_1: Wow! What a nice greeting. No. I do not believe that I am not an idiot. Why? Because if an entire CITY can have a PUBLIC SAFETY ANNOUNCEMENT PLAN, which all cities do! ---- Ever have your TV make all those rainbow colors and beeeeeeeep a high pitched beep to get your attention and warn you of danger in your community? Well, then I hardly think that expecting a college campus (No matter the size) to have a similar system in place is unreasonable.
Brian_1: Well when it comes to cutting and pasting, maybe I am lacking a bit. haha I obviously didnt mean for my "idiot" defense to look so idiotic. :) Oh well, at least I was able to laugh, in spite of your ugly remarks.
Brian_1: You are THICK! The television public service system was an example of how a community can do it. It was not an example of what a campus should necessarily do. The point was that if an entire CITY / NATION can warn its people of danger, then a college campus (Particularly a campus with such technical genius) can damned well come up with something as well! Now stop being a PUNK!
brian_1: The example of a bullhorn was obviously a worst case scenario but definately would have gotten people moving. You are such a hot head that you cant even read through my words reasonably. You have missed every point I have made for the sake of your pathetic ego, which by the way, I might add, tends to imply that you might be lacking in "other" areas of your life. ---I am through with your nonsense. Go back to school and learn all your book smarts so you can keep lacking in common sense.
Answer: Couldn't agree with you more. In spite of this kind of massacre at schools happening repeatedly it seems that no one has learned anything about how, if not to prevent them completely, to at least have a more effective response ready and waiting.
Category: Other - News & Events
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Some Lessons in Damage Control
While the turmoil at Penn State has been the academic equivalent of a Category 5 storm, it will probably not have much long-term impact on the university, experts say. Certainly, it will take years, perhaps a decade, to resolve the fallout from the sexual abuse scandal that has engulfed the football program -- including the universitys own - Many higher education officials and crisis-management specialists predict that long-range effects from the sexual-abuse scandal at Penn State, like hitches in fund-raising, athletic recruiting and admissions, will not last a year. Photos (M)4 - By TAMAR LEWIN
Gun-free zones fail; concealed carry laws work?
Gun-free zones fail; concealed carry laws work
F. PAUL VALONE
If your state lawmakers killed legislation to protect students from slaughter, would you celebrate by saying, "Im sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assemblys actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus"?
This 2006 hubris was courtesy of Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker. The legislation killed was House Bill 1572, which could have enabled concealed handgun permit-holders to protect themselves on college campuses; and harsh reality trumped Hinckers "feeling" of safety when Cho Seung-Hui murdered 32 at Virginia Tech.
When gun control advocates peddle their oft-failed schemes as solutions, they avoid mentioning details of three other school shootings where armed intervention saved lives:
• In Pearl, Miss., assistant principal Joel Myrick stopped triple murderer Luke Woodham using a handgun from his car.
• In Edinboro, Pa., the 14-year-old who killed a teacher at an off-campus dance was captured by shotgun-wielding James Strand.
• At Virginias Appalachian School of Law, student Tracy Bridges used his pistol to detain murderer Peter Odighizuwa.
Beyond anecdotes, researchers John Lott and William Landes, then at Yale and the University of Chicago, respectively, studied multiple victim public shootings. Data from 1976 to 1995 showed the number of shootings in states with concealed handgun laws declined by 84 percent, deaths plummeted by 90 percent and injuries by 82.5 percent.
The two called their findings "dramatic," concluding: "[T]he only policy factor to have a consistently significant influence on multiple victim public shootings is the passage of concealed handgun laws."
Criminals dont obey laws
Like North Carolina, Virginia prohibits guns on campuses. But policies purporting to create "gun-free" zones actually increase victimization, found the researchers: "States with the fewest gun free zones have the greatest reductions [in] killings, injuries, and attacks."Indeed, of eight major school rampages tracked by The New York Times, six occurred after enactment of the federal "Gun Free School Zones Act" in 1996.
Said Lott, "Gun prohibitionists concede that banning guns around schools has not quite worked as intended -- but their response has been to call for more regulation of guns. Yet what might appear to be the most obvious policy may actually cost lives. When gun-control laws are passed, it is law-abiding citizens, not would-be criminals, who adhere to them."
Concealed carry in schools, while novel, is not untested: Utah has permitted it since 1995. If you Google "Utah school shootings," you will find exactly none. Last week, the Tennessee state house voted to join them.
Lest you picture drunken freshman shooting into the air at football games, understand that FBI background checks ensure permit-holders are age 21 and free of felonies, violent misdemeanors and demonstrated substance abuse. After 12 years under North Carolinas concealed handgun law, permit-holders have proven themselves sane, sober and law-abiding. Revocations run less than one tenth of one percent, most for reasons unrelated to guns.
Protect yourself
Moreover, the concept has support among academics: After the recent murders, Virginia Tech graduate research assistant Brad Wiles quoted his unsuccessful appeal to the schools president last August: "The policy that forbids students who are legally licensed to carry in Virginia needs to be changed. I am qualified and capable of carrying a concealed handgun and urge you to work with me to allow my most basic right of self-defense, and eliminate entrusting my safety and the safety of my classmates to the government."
Policy-makers will debate Virginia Techs delayed emergency response and its failure to address Chos clearly disturbed behavior; they will debate campus security. But if 32 murders say anything, its that police have neither the ability nor -- as the Supreme Court has twice ruled -- the responsibility to protect you.
Seventy-six-year-old Professor Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor, used his body to shield escaping Virginia students. Doubtless, the politicians who killed HB 1572 console themselves that their malfeasance didnt quite cause his murder.
But maybe N.C. lawmakers will display uncharacteristic courage by passing legislation allowing concealed handgun permit-holders to deter or stop campus rampages. Heroes such as Liviu Librescu deserve something better than their bodies to stop bullets.
F. Paul
Valone
Answer: everyone that can pass the background checks should be able to carry concealed or not.and then things like the latest school shootings would not happen on the same scale ever again.
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